The following is from Harry’s blog:
I had a hard time falling asleep last night. I received an e-mail from a friend who is intimately familiar with the Chasidic world of hard-core Chasidus like Satmar, Ger and Sqvere. This letter came from the heart. This fellow is no spreader of LaShon Hara. He is a modest and gentle person; responsible and intelligent; a loving and caring Charedi Jew of impeccable integrity. He is as straight as they come.
He has always been reluctant to tell his story – the story of rampant sex abuse in the Chasidic world. But I guess keeping all that inside has gotten to him. So in a moment of extreme candor he spoke out in an e-mail.After reading his letter, I was speechless. I found it impossible to believe. And yet he practically swears to me that it is so. If what he says is true, there is an incredible level of cruelty and inhumanity shown by Chasidic leaders who either allow or perhaps even encourage the intimidation of victims while tolerating abusers in their midst.Apparently the rate of abuse among Chasidim is horrible beyond words. According to some of the mental health professionals who deal with them – estimates of child sex abuse and molestation among the hard-core Chasidim is as high as 33%!I can only imagine the kind of “torture” used against the poor families who come forward. Why do they torture them? I guess because they feel they have no choice since all Hell will break loose if the truth comes out. There would be many hundreds of arrests.Lest anyone think this description of their behavior is not true, I remind you of the case of accused serial molester Avreimal Mondrowitz. He is a Gerrer Chasid. His extradition from Israel to stand trial in the United States was successfully fought by the Ger Chasidic community there. I would also remind you that nothing like this is ever done without the approval of the Gerrer Rebbe himself. He either explicitly or implicitly approved of it. Mondrowitz currently roams the streets of Israel freely.Just to give an example of another “Mondrowitz”- this one in Skvere. I have been told that a top Chasid of the Rebbe molested and raped hundreds and hundreds of children in 3 generations. And everyone there knew about it! He too has fled to Israel.And then there is what is currently going on in the case of accused molester Rabbi Nechemia Weberman. The trial keeps being postponed because of witness intimidation according to my sources.That intimidation tactics exist is not even a question. I direct you to the words of the Brooklyn DA, a man who has been accused of enabling abuse by being unduly influenced by this very same community:“I haven’t seen this kind of intimidation in organized-crime cases or police-corruption cases”
In other words, they are worse than the Mafia!
See the rest here
People don’t seem to care.
All this information is “out there”.
The Plishtim were supposedly about as bad as you get for what they did to their children.
Are the perpetrators & apologists any better?
Are those who harass supportors of victims any better?
Whistlelower=troublemaker=shunned.
Probably not a good idea to get involved in this if you like to keep your “friends”
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There are of course problems. But I agree that the 33%quoted and some of the other stuff is not loshon horah. More like motzi shem ra.
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You must have been privy to the email?
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No. I am privy to these types of chassidic families. The numbers are totally ridiculous. There is lots of rubbish going around. No need to believe everthing. Kol sheken to repeat.
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Do you think it’s worse in Chassidic circles?
Do you think perpetrators are more likely to get away with it in such circles?
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…שבעה דברים בגלם ושבעה בחכם
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Shiva Devarim Begoilom.. would be a gross exaggeration of limud zechus on the writer of the article. Sefer Chofetz Chaim Shemiras Haloshon, explains which category such gossip belongs to.
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Surely, everything else being equal, if a community allows a crime to be punishment free, then the crime would be more prevalent than in a community which has a punishment for that crime.
Germany and Rawanda spring to mind.
And it’s a no-brainer that priests and rabbis have been doing it and getting away with it for decades, and eg that it’s more prevalent in a church environement than not.
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No. I think it is less in chasidic circles than the general populace. There would be various reasons for that. Whenever a religious jew is caught doing something criminally wrong, there is sensationalism: jew! Religious jew! And somehow they all become rabbis! Seems to be the same mentality by other jews regarding chassidic ones. A few look like a lot.
Rarely is there any reporting of the great kiddush Hashem regularly being made by the chassidic community. I can tell you examples of many, where non jews trust a religious jew and moreso a chassidic one more than his own people.
It may not be right, but do you think it’s so easy for such close knitted communities, where chessed is done 24/7 to just start reporting, something they have never had to do before(yes there were menuvalim in the old days, but it was – I think-misunderstood). Although there has been some reporting. Also in some circles, they have taken things quietly into their own hands and made perpetrators pay for their deeds. Of course a prison term is better, as it gets them off the streets.
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I think it is imperative to separate the facts from conjecture. The fact is that there is abuse that has gone on, and almost certainly is going on, in frum communities and that some perpetrators are hiding behind their supposed ‘frumkeit’ in order to hide their evil doing.
To say that “estimates of child sex abuse and molestation among the hard-core Chasidim is as high as 33%” is the sort of emotional statement that does nobody any good. In fact statements like that make many in the community take the situation less seriously than it is. Frum yidden think they are smarter than the ‘velt’ but all the emotional comments on blogs such as this one and FM just make it easier for authorities to dismiss the situation as one created by hysterical people.
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[slight edit by me]
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2012/06/19/ac360-tuchman-orthodox-jewish-sex-abuse.cnn?iref=allsearch
Check out the CNN interview.
33%?
20%?
You be the judge.
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20%?? Again, a total fabrication. Not a shred of evidence! At least the CNN man had the decency at the end to show his doubt saying “if 20% is correct”. Others have no menchlechkeit or morals.
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