Who said this?

Background: it is a critique of Chabad seeking to put Tefillin on soldiers, or any Yidden who haven’t worn them on that day …

“I’m only saying this, because this [putting on tefillin] became a fad.
The frauds and the evil ones’ have attached themselves to this particular mitzvah to advertise to the world, “I’m wearing Tefillin.”
I don’t believe any of this [that this made anyone frum], and even if it should be true, …..
Shabsai Tzvi made Baalei Teshuves in the tens of thousands …
It is brought down from the books of Reb Yaakov M’emdin and others, that there were Jews that distributed their total wealth and went to Shul to learn and they said “Moshiach is already here” and they did Teshuvah!

Author: pitputim

I'm a computer science professor in Melbourne, Australia. I skylark as the band leader/singer for the Schnapps band. My high schooling was in Chabad and I continued at Yeshivat Kerem B'Yavneh in Israel.

13 thoughts on “Who said this?”

  1. Now you have another one sheltering behind Reb Yaakov M’emdin.
    Does the person who said this (I shall not reveal it as there is a voting taking place) not censure the Ya’Avetz?

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  2. Such a post only fosters machlokes. Does it really matter what the critics say? We have a Rebbe and we need to do what he says. Those who do not want to participate do not understand but they will in due time. Ut Ut Kum Moshiach!

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    1. Are you for real or do you have your head in the sand. I heard the Lubavitcher Rebbe נ׳ע give a grand old משברך to a שליח who asked why חב׳ד don’t sleep in the Succah? Are you a revisionist or someone who picks and chooses what quotes from Gedolim are ‘worthy’ to be known or repeated. They were not שיכור when they said it!

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      1. I’m not sure what you’re talking about here. The story as you tell it never happened. I’m pretty sure you’re thinking of an incident where a misnaged came to challenge the Rebbe over this issue, and the Rebbe gave it to him over the head, because he didn’t really want to know, he just came to wage war. I also don’t understand how this relates at all to your point. Yes, there are things that “gedolim” say that should be suppressed for their kovod, and I don’t see how this story shows otherwise.

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        1. I heard the video and he said he was representing people from Israel. You took שליח to mean Chabadsker Shaliach. The guy actually wasn’t disrespectful at all and I have no idea if he was a Misnaged… He could have been a Brisker or …

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          1. He was a damned misnaged, whose entire purpose was to attack and embarass the Rebbe. His question was neither innocent nor honest, and he was answered as he deserved.

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    1. That is impenetrable for an outsider and contradicts shulchan aruch. The fact is that the Lubavitcher rebbe was a great medakdek and as a neutral observer I thought it was a good question. It would be like asking the Gaon why he slept in Succa on Shemini Atzeres … I didn’t think the questioner was chutzpadik.

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      1. The literature is not impenetrable, as the Rebbe told him. And if he couldn’t find it, there is no shortage of Lubavitcher rabbonim and talmidei chachomim in Israel whom he could have asked. The rov of Bnei Brak is a Lubavitcher, and doesn’t sleep in the sukkah, so he could easily have asked him if he wanted to know the reason and somehow couldn’t find it on his own. The very fact that he came to confront the Rebbe with this question was an enormous chutzpah.

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        1. I don’t agree it was a Chutzpa unless he asked it in a Chutzpadik manner, which he did NOT.
          Makifin D’Bina, is impenetrable to me, as is much of Chassidus. My brain wasn’t very well tuned to deal with metaphysics.

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  3. I also didn’t think the questioner was chutzpadik. Had he been so, the Rebbe probably wouldn’t have given him so much time. However, it was also obvious that he has been set up to this by others. So on the one hand, there is a great deal of respect from the Rebbe to him, as he is quite obviously a Rosh Yeshiva of stature. On the other hand is strong mussar meant for those who sent him. Those people weren’t sincere in the question, and were only looking to antagonize.

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  4. I think that the voting stopped. No one got the majority vote, but one is leading. It drew quite some attention. Don’t you think that now you can tell us who this “Damned Mithnaged” was?

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